Marcus Hart (00:00.522)
Look, let's be real. There's a machine out there right now that can create Hollywood level video from a single sentence. For every creator, every artist, every storyteller out there that's grinding it, that's terrifying. It feels like we are all about to be replaced. But what if that's wrong? What if that's the wrong way to look at it? What if the biggest threat isn't the machine?
but our failure to remember what makes us human. Welcome back to the Transform You Live show where we find faith in the middle of the chaos. I'm your host as always Marcus Hart and today we're gonna be talking to someone who has been on the front lines of technological disruption in Hollywood for over two decades. Shannon, she's a veteran documentary filmmaker and the owner of Padlet Creative.
She has seen Rose disappear in technology events, and she's here with a powerful message. Don't panic. She believes our humanity is the one thing AI can never replicate. Shadid, it's a blessing to have you here on the Transform You Live show.
Marcus Hart (00:00.704)
Now listen up because this is so important. Shannon's entire argument is that unique human voices are what we, you know, can win over. But what if you could build a brand so authentic, so authoritative that no algorithm or AI could ever touch it? That's exactly what we're going to be doing when I break down all of that and more in my upcoming masterclass for FaithFueled.
creators. The answer to the noise isn't to be louder, it's to be clearer. So stay with us.
Marcus Hart (00:01.069)
All right, Shannon, we are here today and you've been in the trenches for over 20 years, mainly in wildlife documents, documentaries, I'm sorry, which I can imagine has its own special kind of gritty to it. But before we even get to AI, what were some of the biggest tech shifts you had to survive just to stay in the game?
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (00:22.978)
Yeah, mean, like you said, I've been in the game for, I got in 1999 and that's when there was the big shift initially from standard definition to high definition, as well as the shift from, you know, going analog to digital. And so that was already a big shift and you were looking from going from, you know, not great quality to super high quality tape, which was expensive and new equipment.
Marcus Hart (00:32.858)
Yeah.
Marcus Hart (00:38.449)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (00:50.922)
And then everything left tape and went to digital. So during, these past 25 years, it's, it's been a complete evolution of the technology that's been used. And I mean, I came in when I was 29, when I started like doing video in college, it wasn't even digital. was like hauling around these giant like decks that you brought with you and these cameras that were super heavy, which is why I still have a bad neck to this day. So yeah, no, I've seen, I've seen the change in the progression of how things have moved.
Marcus Hart (01:03.045)
Mm-hmm.
Hmm.
Marcus Hart (01:10.306)
Yeah.
Marcus Hart (01:15.025)
Yeah.
Marcus Hart (01:21.201)
I think, you know, that's really remarkable. you know, just to see, be able to witness that, you know, in your, in your career, you know, from, you know, where it started to where it is now. And, you know, people, you know, should give you a lot of respect, you know, and people that are like you, you deserve a lot of respect, you know, you have so much wealth to offer up to, you know, the younger people behind you. And,
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (01:29.112)
Mm-hmm.
Marcus Hart (01:49.753)
I looked at your writings and the shock of seeing Disney's 2019 The Lion King being called live action. So walk us through that moment and as a filmmaker, what did that signal to you about where the industry was headed and why did it bother you?
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (02:09.984)
Yeah, was was that was an interesting thing. I remember first and I don't remember which Pixar movie it was that they have, you the shorts in front of it. And there was a short, I think it was about a little plover bird that was digging on the beach. And it was done in super high realism. And I looked at my friend and went, I'm in trouble. wow. This is crazy. And then.
Marcus Hart (02:18.927)
Mm-hmm.
Marcus Hart (02:24.592)
Mmm.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (02:36.718)
when they did the Lion King and they were saying it was Disney's live action. You know, I stood back and said, well, no, I send DPS out there all the time to film lions and they don't talk. They don't plot together. They don't they don't hang out and sing songs with warthogs and little meerkats. That's not the reality, but that's how it was being advertised. And it was it was a little bit of a joke. But what I found was
Marcus Hart (02:46.031)
Right.
Marcus Hart (02:49.777)
Thank
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (03:05.14)
Initially, I kind of stood back and went, wait a minute, you know, this is not good. And then I remember when Walking with Dinosaurs came out and Jurassic Park, and there's a difference between fiction and documentary. There's a difference between, you know, what is made up and what is fantasy and what is actually real. And the audiences have shown that they're not
Marcus Hart (03:14.171)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (03:30.638)
100 % behind AI and like Lion King is good to replace the documentaries. They've shown that with things like the Americas and the new Walking with Dinosaurs that's on PBS. But the way we label things and the way we call things, that's where I feel that we have to be a little bit careful in how we define it.
Marcus Hart (03:37.766)
Yep.
Marcus Hart (03:51.341)
I agree. feel like that's the best, know, like when things like that come up, you know, it's an opportunity for us to push back and, you know, let them know exactly what we want and, you know, who was affecting, most importantly, you know, there's a powerful distinction that you just point out there, you know, it's about the truth and language, which is the foundation of storytelling. So when did this new wave, you know, what we call now the generative AI started making headlines?
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (04:02.862)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (04:10.722)
Mm-hmm.
Marcus Hart (04:21.477)
Were you scared or did you just feel like it was another Tuesday in a constantly evolving industry?
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (04:28.718)
I it was another Tuesday, but I remember learning that there were different techniques and different things that we were able to use, not only in the field, but also in post-production, that if there was audio missing or there was maybe this thing just didn't sound as perfect, we were able to go in and use new extensions in order to fill in the gaps to make them more robust. when you were like, wait a minute.
Marcus Hart (04:30.097)
Yeah.
Marcus Hart (04:38.917)
Right.
Marcus Hart (04:50.083)
And... Yeah.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (04:55.512)
well, what's doing that? And you realize those extensions are using the same type of technology built on. This is what's happening. And then you hear this voiceover that's coming from something. And I recently did a scratch track on a rough cut, so nothing is going to go out in the public. And I showed it to a friend, and they're like, that's a really good narrator. Who is that? And I said, that's fake. That's AI, right?
Marcus Hart (05:00.945)
you
Marcus Hart (05:18.737)
Yeah.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (05:20.814)
And I got this kind of backlash and like, do you feel guilty? I'm like, no, it's a tool. It's always been a tool of how we do things. So Photoshop, the advances in Photoshop, the advances we've been able to use in image manipulation, this in many ways is a continuation of that. So I look at it and don't necessarily panic the same way that a lot of other people do.
Marcus Hart (05:28.079)
Yeah.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (05:49.024)
in that I always and still do and don't see this changing, view it as a tool, not the end be all of creation. If that answers your question.
Marcus Hart (05:54.853)
Mm-hmm.
Marcus Hart (06:00.485)
Yeah, it absolutely does. And I really want to into the heart of that. I get a lot of filmmakers, young filmmakers, that's like fresh out of college sometimes that come, you know, they watch the podcast and they have listened to the podcast and some have reached out to me. A lot of them feel pretty burned out, you know, watching this, you know, who they feel completely demoralized, you know, especially with seeing tools like OpenAI, Sora.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (06:25.486)
Mm-hmm.
Marcus Hart (06:29.905)
create an incredibly realistic video from a simple text prop. So how do they, I love how you say it's tool, but how do they compete when a machine can generate a perfect jungle scene in minutes? Something that's used to take a whole crew months to capture.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (06:33.56)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (06:50.51)
I think that it's keeping it in perspective and think about the things that you enjoy and what you watch and how the AI is used that doesn't take away from the content of what you're producing. I think that's really, really important for young filmmakers to remember is many of the films that we all love and enjoy and I think are great have some element of technology infused in it.
but that's not driving the creative force. That's not driving the narrative. It's not driving the hook. I mean, I would say that I would look at somebody like Sinners, look at the movie Sinners. There's technology that's used in there, but that's not taking away from that artistic vision and what that vision is being executed by Ryan Coogler. That's him. That's him. So it's how you're using that. And I think that
Marcus Hart (07:21.328)
Yeah.
Marcus Hart (07:32.667)
Mm-hmm.
Marcus Hart (07:42.075)
Yeah.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (07:46.72)
when you look at something like, let's look at a filmmaker like Wes Anderson. Wes Anderson is a great example of, he uses technology minimally, he uses old fashioned techniques, and also he, many of his films are reverential to past creative pieces. Like there are so many scenes in his movies that are homages to films from 1950s, 60s, 70s, et cetera. So for young filmmakers, I think it's,
Marcus Hart (08:06.427)
Hmm. Yeah.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (08:16.822)
key that they think of this as a tool. The audience is going to become adept at it. The audience is going to learn to see it. Like I watch a TV, a commercial, and I'm like, that's all AI. And it doesn't resonate with me where I'll see something that is completely shot all originally. And that strikes me more. That hits me more than the latest kind of, kind of let's have a polar bear on a train.
you know, riding through for a Christmas ad. So I think that for filmmakers, they always have to remember that you're the one who's using the tool. Don't let the tool drive you.
Marcus Hart (08:56.081)
That's a message of hope right there. I appreciate that. They need it, definitely to get that message out there. So let's go a little bit deeper. You said, what makes art special? Personal elements, in so many words. There's a huge debate raging online right now about whether or not AI can have a soul from a creative and maybe even a spiritual standpoint.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (09:11.267)
Hmm.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (09:24.942)
Mm-hmm.
Marcus Hart (09:25.435)
Where do they draw the line? Is that spark of humanity, that fingerprint of God that you believe a machine can simply never, ever replicate?
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (09:35.658)
It's, you know, that's a question that has been asked for more than a century. You know, and I say this as I'm, I think seven episodes into season three of Foundation on Apple TV, which gets really in the heart of do robots think? Can they have emotions? Can they have all that? I think that the optimism behind that, I personally don't see it because that...
Marcus Hart (09:40.709)
Yes.
Marcus Hart (09:49.489)
Yeah.
Marcus Hart (10:00.913)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (10:03.988)
One thing about humanity and one thing about just life is it can't be broken down into a very planned timeline. You can't look at life and say that life is A, B, C, D, or a very plot line. And things happen. And with that, that's what makes us human, our experiences, our emotions.
Marcus Hart (10:15.366)
Yeah.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (10:33.452)
you believe or you don't believe in the soul. I do believe in that. do believe that we have humanity has a soul and that's what elevates us more over machinery. Machines won't have that unpredictability because for them it's a logical process. It's always that. And I think we do have to be careful in recognizing that because that for them logic means one plus one equals two.
Marcus Hart (10:50.897)
Right.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (11:02.99)
They're always going to default to that. But if anybody maybe being old has this part for me is like, I know that sometimes life is one plus one equals chicken McNuggets. You know, it's just not going to be that. It's just not going to happen.
Marcus Hart (11:04.944)
Yeah.
Marcus Hart (11:16.129)
Yeah, life is more complex than what they try to make it to be. those who are fighting on that side, I think they're robbing themselves of the uniqueness of an individual. You take one individual, there's so much uniqueness about one individual. You take a group of individuals and then, you
it gets real crazy now. Yeah, because we got to figure out how they get together. We got to figure out to work together. We got to figure out how to break fights. There's so much, like you said, unpredictability and complexity that comes from, know, existing in this world as a human. You know, so I like that you wrote, hey, I won't replace rare talents like Shondra Rhimes or Christopher Nolan simply because of their humanity, you know, for
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (11:44.494)
Absolutely.
Marcus Hart (12:10.843)
person who's listening, who isn't a famous director, what does that mean from them? How do they identify and then amplify their unique, unrepentant humanity in their work?
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (12:23.054)
I think that I would, it's something I talk about when I help people develop ideas and I teach a class called From Idea to Pitch about how to find that idea you have for a movie, a film, a documentary, et cetera, and how do you break it out into something bigger. And the first question I ask is why are you passionate about this? Why do you care? And if you don't care about the subject, then,
Marcus Hart (12:28.709)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (12:50.004)
AI doesn't care about the subject. They're just processing the data. They're just processing it and giving you an answer. Why do you care? And once you realize why you care, then identify why an audience should care. And I believe that's the case with every piece of art, that when you go to an art museum and you stand in front of a painting by Vincent van Gogh or you stand in front of a sculpture, you know, of course, my brain's
hiccuping right now, Henry Moore, you know, and you feel something, there's something that's drawn, you're drawn to a piece of music, etc. You know, that's, to me, that's art. That's what art brings you. And so what is it about that you what you want to write what you want to create, you know, paint, sculpt, film, etc. is what's that element that's going to be in that that's going to make it something that touches emotionally.
And even emotionally, could be, that could be curiosity. That could be, you know, your curiosity inside of yourself. I think that's the thing you have to keep in mind. You have to do that because I say this all the time. If you present a documentary and all you do is list facts, it's a Wikipedia article. Why, what's the point? And if you're also doing like with wildlife and all you're doing is showing pretty pictures, then it's wallpaper, it's digital wallpaper. You've got to tell the story. And what that story is, is
Marcus Hart (14:01.531)
Yeah.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (14:14.146)
What is it gonna be that's gonna peak the human's interest, their emotion? So I think that's really important for any artist to keep in mind of what they're creating and how that's gonna really impact the viewer. Now, I've had artists...
I've had discussions with artists who say, I'm an artist, I create for myself, I'm my own muse. That's great. That's great. And there are very few artists who are able to do that and sustain living a life that's not boxed macaroni and cheese. It's not, know, exactly. For the overwhelming majority of us who don't have the luxury of doing everything we want, that's something we have to take into consideration.
Marcus Hart (14:41.465)
Yeah.
Marcus Hart (14:49.713)
Right. Spill some noodles in there while you're at it.
Marcus Hart (15:03.471)
That's really the core of it all. And I had said this to many others in the series that we were talking more about building a brand and a voice from the inside out. And that's exactly what you're speaking to. And that's where the true authority comes from. And it's clear this is what you help people do at PatLib Creative, which is amazing. Maybe share a little bit more about that.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (15:14.605)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (15:30.04)
Sure, my company, Padling Creative, I'm a consulting firm and an executive producer working on documentaries and short films, as well as working with creative professionals on ideas they may have, places that they may feel stuck. I'm working on an independent documentary right now with an incredible Baltimore filmmaker, as well as another one with a Puerto Rican film company about the rivalry of baseball between Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic.
Marcus Hart (15:59.067)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (15:59.086)
So I work with a variety of people as well as produce my own films. And then because my original career, before I was in TV in my 20s, I was a talent agent for creative professionals. And with the way that the television industry has shifted, and a lot of television professionals and creatives are unemployed or underemployed right now, I also do career counseling on helping them kind of shape their resume, shape their approach and how they can...
Marcus Hart (16:22.17)
Yeah.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (16:28.128)
maybe move beyond television, a life beyond television.
Marcus Hart (16:32.527)
I love that, you know, so yeah, I'm thinking to myself, like, you know, where were you at when I produced my first documentary? man. I can't even bear to watch it. Yeah.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (16:39.534)
You
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (16:45.474)
No, you know what? I can't watch my stuff either. I was at something recently where I was being screened in front of like 200 people and I'm like, this is awful. And I just sat there and my brain just drifted off to some place with Pedro Pascal and I was totally fine. Yeah.
Marcus Hart (16:57.423)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm going to definitely have to hook up with you and get some that insight myself. because I have a couple of projects and it works. Yeah, I just want to make sure I'm connecting all the right dots.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (17:16.342)
I get it. get it. you know, it's one thing about being creative is it's a blessing and it's a curse at the same time, is you have so many creative ideas and things that you want to do. And then, you know, like every artist, half of them just end up like just kind of out there because it just didn't really hit, didn't hit all the notes. But when you have that one, you have that one that really you just, this is it. This is what I really want to pursue and this is what I'm going to do.
Marcus Hart (17:23.866)
Yeah.
Marcus Hart (17:32.913)
You
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (17:45.74)
you'll burn out, you'll do everything you can to make sure that it gets completed and then wonder what the next piece is.
Marcus Hart (17:51.665)
Yeah, spot on. So let's bring this home for my audience, the entrepreneurs, the pastors, the community leaders, all these individuals who have this creative ability. They're not making movies, but they are fighting to get their message heard and a seed of digital noise. How can they apply this Hollywood lesson of humanity over machine to build a stronger connection with their audience?
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (18:19.15)
I think there's two things. think that recognize your own voice. Recognize what your voice is and what you want to convey and what's important to you. And the same things that draw people to you personally are going to be the same things that draw people to you when you create your artwork. I think I see a lot of people who are chasing to become the next blank. You know, I remember during my time at Cable,
Marcus Hart (18:31.312)
Mm-hmm.
Marcus Hart (18:44.517)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (18:47.022)
working at Discovery and National Geographic, it was, who are the next Mythbusters? The thing was, there was no next Mythbusters. It's just the Mythbusters. So be yourself, identify who you are and work with that and then grow on that, on your own persona. And I think one thing, I've been reading the book called The Boys, which is an autobiography by Ron and Clint Howard about their life growing up in Hollywood and being a film director and an actor.
Marcus Hart (18:53.72)
No, it's not.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (19:15.756)
And one thing he says, he told his daughter, is that storytelling is a privilege. And that it's a real privilege to be able to do that. And I think when you have that, when you recognize that you have that ability to create and tell people stories or bring something that you feel really passionate about, you care about, that's part of who you are, it's a real privilege. And when you recognize that, I think it makes it more sincere and honest. And I always remind people.
Identify that privilege, identify that people want to listen to you and be thankful for that and work with that.
Marcus Hart (19:51.589)
Yeah, I agree. That's truly amazing. know, when we talk about the Ryan Coolers of the world and, you know, Spike Lee and even Steven Spielberg and put them in there and a couple other, you know, great state, you know, they always put their own name into their work, you know, and it's their fingerprint. And it's hard to replicate it exactly the same. You can't. It's just impossible.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (20:09.18)
yeah.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (20:19.158)
No. and, know, mean, cooler just batting a thousand, but you know, it's like, you know, Spielberg and Lee had been around for so long. And one thing that I admire about them is they're not afraid to fail. And, know, when you create, you're gonna fail. And, and as someone who grew up playing sports and doing things, I mean, I hate losing, but I've gotten much better at losing now with my career, what I do.
Marcus Hart (20:26.0)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Marcus Hart (20:33.763)
No, I didn't.
Mm-hmm.
Marcus Hart (20:46.673)
Yeah.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (20:47.79)
And it's okay, because you learn from it. I think it's really good because you can learn from it. you know, those guys, you know, and Shonda Rhimes and, you know, they put their fingerprints on it and you know it's them, because they pour their heart into it. They know that this is something that they're passionate about. And even if maybe a little bit they're phoning it in, you know, still it's their work and their work has their fingerprints on it and it's brilliant.
Marcus Hart (21:00.611)
Mm-hmm. Yep.
Marcus Hart (21:13.189)
It is.
And they know how to bring together the right team. So yeah, so that they can draw inspiration from around the team and make something beautiful. Jackson Dyer is another one of those guys. Just truly amazing. Without the tools, there's also the touch. And I really would like you and you to give people one practical habit or mindset shift that they can adopt this week to start.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (21:19.47)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (21:29.912)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Marcus Hart (21:46.093)
injecting more of their personal element into their work. Rather, it's a sermon, a business plan, or social media posts.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (21:58.894)
That's a good question. I'm trying to think. You know, I've been really lucky. You're going to hit me on a personal thing. I've had two instances this past week where someone, some random person felt comfortable to talk to me and tell me how lovely their day is.
Marcus Hart (22:15.331)
Mmm. Yeah.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (22:19.406)
Put out that energy. Be that person who someone randomly feels comfortable to talk to and say hello and wish you a good day. That's my advice.
Marcus Hart (22:32.305)
That's beautiful, family. I really appreciate that. we took that, it in a lake, we'd have a lake full of gold and platinum diamonds. That's golden advice. And it's all true, especially in a divisive environment that we are in right now. No one feels comfortable talking to no one. And we can learn so much from each other. So much we can learn from each other, rather what side we're on, rather what skin color we are. I just think it really doesn't matter.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (22:38.878)
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (22:50.06)
Yep.
Mm-hmm.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (22:58.274)
Yeah.
Marcus Hart (23:01.659)
That's the beauty of humanity in itself. And yeah, go ahead.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (23:05.505)
Let me just add, I just want to say one thing about being human that makes us different from almost every other species on the planet is we're curious. We have curiosity. Embrace curiosity. Don't be fearful of it. Don't stay so rigid that you're not curious about other people, other lives, other things. Be curious because it's one of the things that makes us human.
Marcus Hart (23:08.955)
Mm-hmm.
Marcus Hart (23:20.507)
care.
Marcus Hart (23:31.889)
I'm going to steal you for a little bit more time. I got one last question. I got to get this question out and then we'll close from there. When you look at the future, not just of television and film, but that of human creativity in general, what makes you the most optimistic?
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (23:53.608)
I am constantly.
in awe of new ways people tell stories. And I say this as someone who in the past 25 years, I have probably watched more than 2000 hours. I'm thinking that's a really low number really of nonfiction content. And so it's easy to get cynical and be like, oh, not this again, you know? And then someone tells something
Marcus Hart (24:24.891)
Yeah.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (24:27.094)
in a completely different way. And I'm thrilled by it. I'm absolutely thrilled by it. Even also people recognizing the beauty and the hilarity of just the banal. You know, I jokingly say all the time of like, I'll watch some random YouTube short of random clips of kids and little motorized cars running over their parents. And I am doubled over laughing. And I'm like, I can't compete with that. And that's okay. That's totally fine. So that's the hope.
Marcus Hart (24:40.134)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (24:56.972)
The hope is, is there's always ways to tell stories. There's always great stories out there. So I don't look at technology and say, it's going to replace us because one thing about AI is AI learns and it takes in all the data and then it gives you the gray. That's what it gives you. It gives you the average, the gray. Life is not great gray. Life is about all the colors and the things that are different. And if the gray was working, if the gray was
the absolute correct way of being that movies like Sinners and Barbie would not be hits because those are not gray. So that's what makes me hopeful. That's what makes me like I see that constantly and go, you know what? No, creativity is going to win. It's still going to win no matter what.
Marcus Hart (25:34.779)
Yeah.
Marcus Hart (25:48.943)
Yeah. Shannon, thank you, seriously. This was the icing on the cake for this series, just to have someone of your stature to be able to come in here, pour out wisdom, hope, and a real strategy into what feels like a chaotic time. For a lot of us, the messages are absolutely clear. Double down on your humanity. I know I've been showing my humanity throughout the podcast today.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (25:52.622)
Seriously?
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (26:11.31)
Mm-hmm.
Marcus Hart (26:17.329)
been grabbing for the tissue all day. Yeah, so tell us where we can find you if we want to hit you up or you know, we'll probably get you going.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (26:27.064)
Sure. My website is padlin. You can book a consultation with me. Drop me a line through there. Absolutely love to hear from people. I'm on social media. Same thing, padlin creative. I'm not as good at tracking on social media. I'm not going to lie. And I'm certainly not on TikTok because I'm way too old to be on TikTok. yeah, reach out. Talk to me anytime. I love talking about films. I love talking about creativity. Love helping people.
Marcus Hart (26:54.405)
Yeah, we have a great conversation around. Yeah. so to my Transform You family out there, if this conversation lit a fire in you at all, let us know. Hit that like button, subscribe so you never miss a show and comment below what makes your voice unique. And don't forget to hit up my friend Shannon. We have her links in the episode description. So make sure you check those out and let her know that like, Hey, you heard her on the Transforming You Live show.
Shannon Malone-deBenedictis (26:56.45)
Good. Fantastic.
Marcus Hart (27:23.053)
And please share this episode. Someone out there is feeling hopeless about this stuff and needs to hear it. Until next time, many blessings, peace, and lots of love.
Marcus Hart (00:00.866)
Hey, Transform You Family, that conversation definitely lit a fire inside of me. And I want to hear from you as well. If you haven't already, hit that like button, subscribe so you never miss a show, and hit that notification bell if you're watching on YouTube, and comment below with what makes your voice unique. Please share this episode because someone is out there, hopeless about all of this AI stuff and machine learning, and needs to hear this. And listen to me.
Come closer and listen to me. If you are a faith-filled creator and you are so tired of shouting to a wall that is totally empty, I want to personally invite you to my, from digital noise to niche authority masterclass. It's happening online, Thursday, September 4th. We are going to be building on these exact episodes, ideas from the episodes and give you a blueprint to make your authentic voice.
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