Marcus Hart (00:01.663)

This is for the person who is drowning in anxiety but smiling in the church pew. You have been told to just pray or have more faith, but the panic over your finances, your career, and your future is still crippling. The truth is, peace is not passive. It is an active spiritual weapon, in fact. You have been trying to wish for peace, but God is calling you to execute. In this discussion today,

We are handing you the ultimate biblical key to move from a life of anxiety to a life of authority.

You have heard the hook. We are talking about the practical, forged in the fire strategies to unlock lasting biblical peace. In a world that is louder, faster, and more anxious than ever, how do we move beyond wishing for peace and start walking it? How do we practically surrender control when the bills are due? How do we tell the difference between normal worry

and clinical anxiety that requires a doctor. And what are the real spiritual barriers? The ones no one talk about that are actively blocking you from the peace God promised. Today, folks, we are not dealing in theory. We are dealing in strategy. And to do that, I have assembled my own area on spiritual special forces team. First up, have Reverend Addison.

a US Army Chaplain and a spiritual trauma informed practitioner who has ministered in the most high stakes environments imaginable. have Richard Ramos, the founder of Parents on a Mission and an author who steps into domestic chaos to help families find peace, order, and leadership. Jen Brooks, the founder of Anchored and Assured.

Marcus Hart (02:03.168)

a Bible teacher and author who equips believers to let go of insecurity and anchor their identity firmly in Christ. And of course, as always, I'm your host and moderator for the day, Marcus Hart, and you are listening to the Transform Your Lives show in combination with the Shameless Faith Church. We are about to dive straight to the core. The title of the episode promises the ultimate biblical key. So panel, let's get to it. What is that key?

Marcus Hart (00:01.798)

Joining me today are experts who embody this truth through ministry and practice as we discuss a very important topic, you know, with the way that the world is today. Finding God's peace seems pretty much, you know, kind of far off than what it did, but, you know, we're here to dispel that and to provide some insight. So would you guys please introduce yourself from left to right?

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (00:11.054)

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Rev. Dr. AShellarien (00:23.0)

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Rev. Dr. AShellarien (00:29.773)

I don't know if I'm left or right, but I'll go first. I'm Reverend Dr. Ashela Rini Addison, live and in person here in Philadelphia. So I'm Reverend Dr. Ashela Rini Addison on the civilian side and Chaplain Lieutenant Colonel Ashela Rini Addison on the military side. I'm an Army chaplain. I'm a hospice chaplain, author, international speaker, spiritual trauma informed clinical practitioner. Excited about this topic that we're talking about, faith and mental health.

Marcus Hart (00:33.138)

Yeah

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (00:57.101)

The wheelhouse of so many people who are struggling Thank you for having me

Marcus Hart (01:02.994)

Thank you. And Jan Brutes, where is this?

Richard (01:04.541)

Good morning, I'm Richard Ramos.

Marcus Hart (01:07.778)

Sorry about that Richard. I just want to fill Jen in. We are introducing ourselves. So right after Richard introduced himself, we will allow you to introduce yourself as well.

Richard (01:20.625)

Yeah. Thank you, Marcus. Good morning, everybody. My name is Richard Ramos. I am the author, founder of Parents on a Mission, what is a program that I've developed for parent leadership, mostly families, high risk families throughout the country and internationally. I appreciate the topic that we're discussing this morning and thank you very much for inviting me to be part of the program.

Marcus Hart (01:47.292)

Thank you, Richard.

Marcus Hart (01:51.858)

All right, Ms. Brooks, to introduce yourself and yeah.

Jen Brooks (01:54.702)

Hey everyone, my name is Jen Brook.

Sure. My name is Jen Brooks. founder of Anchored and Assured, and I equip others to let go of insecurity and anchor their identity in Christ. Very excited to be here and serve the Lord alongside you all today. So thanks so much for the honor to be here.

Marcus Hart (02:15.225)

And thank you all of panelists who are here. So let's dive in. Let's go straight to the core. The title of this episode promises the ultimate biblical key. What is the key to unlocking lasting peace according to scripture beyond simple belief? And how does it relate to authority?

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (02:36.887)

All right, I'll jump right in one of the ultimate biblical pieces understanding that we're not in this thing by ourselves and that we cannot and shall not orchestrate our lives and surrender our will to God's will

means God is in control. So if we close our eyes, see through God's eyes, it activates our faith. One of the challenges we have is that our faith was not activated. We got a lot of people talking faith, but they're not walking and speaking and living and moving, having to be in faith. And part of that is exercising your faith muscle to say, if God said it, I've got to do my part and then let God do the rest. And you do that with authority, knowing your child is in control.

Richard (03:16.454)

Yeah, I would say as far as maintaining peace, mean, that's a matter of spiritual growth because we're not called to only maintain peace with people who believe like us, look like us, talk like us. We have to maintain peace with people that do not believe what we believe. We know we're all called to pray for our enemies, love our enemies. so much of that, as the Reverend said, that takes a lot of walking in faith, spiritual maturity,

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (03:16.874)

Thank you.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (03:41.257)

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Richard (03:44.935)

constantly growing and understanding our place in the world. What we see today, everything is about politics and if you don't believe what I believe, you're my enemy. As Christians, we need to counter that message with no, you're not my enemy, even though we don't believe the same thing, but we can still get along and have peace in this world.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (03:59.846)

Thank you.

Jen Brooks (04:07.48)

think it's important too to note that there's an element of surrender that has to be at our core. I think of Jesus, his words in Matthew 11, when he said, to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. So the key to finding rest for our souls that we crave is found in

in him, but he tells us we have to come to him. He says, come to me. And then we have to take his yoke upon us and learn from him. So there's an element of surrender and walking in step with him step by step with what the Holy Spirit is showing us.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (04:34.792)

Thank you.

Marcus Hart (04:51.449)

I love those responses. It's great. Very strategic. So let's get to the second question. How does the biblical concept of surrender and control practically translate into managing modern anxiety over finances or career?

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (05:10.976)

One of the things we have to do is understand that there's we have our part and then God has his God has God's part right and says some plant some water but God gives the increase

And so you think about surrendering, it's just a matter of saying, I can't do this by myself. And so it's really a spiritual discipline of intentional yielding of your spirit. Right. And then you have to listen to what God said and not be distracted by the things all around. We have anxiety all around us all the time. And so you have this understanding that faith is our anchor yet faith without works is dead. So I've got to activate my faith, like I said earlier, and then I got to walk out this faith.

I've got to be able to take some steps. Sometimes you might dip your toe in the water. Sometimes you might jump in the deep end, right? But all of that brings spiritual maturity. You'll learn you, you got to learn your growing. You got to learn what things have pushed beyond, what things you can handle. And then sometimes you have to push yourself beyond your comfort zone. Be able to say, know, my faith is outside of this box that I put God in.

Richard (06:14.641)

Yeah, you know, the Lord tells us that you can worry all you want. You can have anxiety if you want to, if you choose to, but nothing's going to change. You know, every day in itself has its own problems and there's very little we can control, but what we can control is ourselves. But I will say that one of the things that causes a lot of anxiety, of course, is money. That's why the Lord tells us to seek first the kingdom of God. And if we are doing that,

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (06:21.861)

I'm sick.

Richard (06:43.825)

then when money stress comes, we're gonna be able to walk in peace, although it is very anxious. And personally, I was recently defrauded out of a lot of money, or frauded, or however you say it, out of a lot of money. And unfortunately, I went for the fraud and that cost me a lot of money that I had saved for things that I wanted to purchase and invest in, things like that. And what could I do?

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (06:44.325)

See you.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (06:48.134)

Thank you.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (06:54.469)

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Rev. Dr. AShellarien (07:07.109)

Thank you.

Richard (07:14.011)

Well, the only thing I could do is what I've learned to do, and that is to turn to the Lord, to trust in Him and look to Him and find peace, which I've got to admit was not hard. It was a test of faith for sure. And whether or not I could find peace in an anxious time of when I realized that I had been lied to, I had been frauded, the money was gone, there was nothing I could do about it. But again, as a Christian and following the word,

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (07:31.588)

Thank

Richard (07:43.783)

Today I'm looking at you and saying I have peace.

Jen Brooks (07:48.096)

You know, an interesting thing about control, the tighter we try to grip onto control, the tighter anxiety will grip us. So there is freedom when we have a transfer of trust and we're not trusting in ourselves, but we're going to trust in him. Like Psalm 56 two tells us, when I am afraid, I will trust in you. So there's a transfer of trust. Where is your ultimate trust lie? Is it in your circumstances? Is it in your surroundings, yourself, other people?

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (08:04.802)

Okay.

Jen Brooks (08:17.437)

It's got to be in him. So the element of trust just has to be there.

Richard (08:22.236)

Yeah.

Marcus Hart (08:25.202)

Thank you for those responses. How should believers differ between normal worry and clinical anxiety that requires professional license and mental health, licensed mental health, I'm sorry.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (08:39.008)

One of the ways that we do that is understand that normal worry is manageable. One of the challenges we have in the faith community is giving ourselves spiritual permission to not be okay. One of the things that COVID taught us is that it is okay not to be okay. And God is big enough to handle our anxiety. God is big enough to handle it. We say that God is big enough.

The challenge is, we really believe that? Do we really walk in that? And so clinical anxiety pushes us beyond our mental capacity and pushes us beyond our emotional capacity. And so sometimes we think that prayer will fix it and that, and I believe in the power of prayer and the power of fasting. But there are times when you can have Jesus and you can have a therapist. You can have a prayer and you can have a pill. We just have to break down the stigma and say that we can't limit God on how God heals us.

We can't limit how God manifests in the doctors and in the nurses. There's a reason why I'm able to do what we do. The challenge we have right now is spiritual permission and then breaking the stigma that you can talk to a therapist, you can say, I'm not okay and still have your face.

Richard (09:45.979)

Yeah, I would would ditto that with the Reverend the Saint. I think, you know, if sometimes we just have to understand that we can pray, we can believe we can receive counseling, but maybe it's not enough, you know. But there is that element of when it's OK to worry, as she said. But if it gets beyond that and where there's you're hearing voices and you're acting out and getting violent and, you know.

treating people that you love and that love you in a way that is inconsistent and people basically don't know what to expect from you. I think that's when, that's where the clinical and the professionals that we need to go ahead and allow them to give us the help that they're experts in. I hate to say that fasting and praying and going to church and hearing sermons isn't enough, but sometimes it's not enough. We'd like to spiritualize everything

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (10:22.173)

you

Richard (10:43.025)

But other than, I don't know, other than hearing those voices, and I've just dealt with people like that. And I felt like, I don't know what to do, Lord. I don't know what else I can do for this person. And the help I was offering them wasn't enough.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (10:51.169)

Thank

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (10:55.522)

Yeah.

Jen Brooks (11:03.05)

I'm so glad you asked this question, Marcus. My formal education is my bachelor's degree in nursing. So I'm a nurse. This is not medical advice, but I'd like to give a few pointers as to when maybe you should seek professional help. The first is how much or what degree is your symptoms of anxiety affecting your activities of daily living? So for example, are you eating? Are you sleeping? Are thoughts consuming your thought world where you can't

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (11:08.935)

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Rev. Dr. AShellarien (11:23.456)

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Rev. Dr. AShellarien (11:28.96)

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Jen Brooks (11:32.586)

seem to let go or are you able to leave your home? Is it affecting your daily life? So that's one thing to consider. Are there other symptoms of other processes happening, maybe depression or other mental things that you just think you might need help sorting things out? Thirdly, if you have been a victim of trauma or some substantial crisis, you may need professional help to help you process what's happened to you.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (11:33.258)

Thank you.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (11:44.128)

Thank

Jen Brooks (11:59.869)

And I asked a friend of mine who is a healthcare provider, she treats people with anxiety. And she said, know, Jen, something very interesting to note on this is we see very little positive lasting impact for patients with anxiety when it's not coupled with biblical counseling. She said, that's because our ultimate help doesn't rest in other people or medicine. We need a savior.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (12:20.895)

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Jen Brooks (12:25.288)

So it was very interesting to note if you need medical help go you need to seek that but at the same time don't forget you need to say seek your Savior and coupling your biblical counseling along with medical help will have your greatest impact for lasting results

Marcus Hart (12:44.39)

Part of your last, part of your response is a real good transition to this next question. And that's, you know, the spiritual barriers. What are the primary spiritual barriers that actively block a person from accepting God's peace?

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (12:48.383)

To two main things distractions in spiritual focus, know The Bible says hope the third makes the heart sick But when the thing comes then that's the tree of life and sometimes it's in that waiting We don't do a good job of waiting. You don't have that stick to it miss

that long suffering, you know, we have a micro-age mentality, we want everything right away. And so that ability to have some spiritual resilience is a spiritual barrier because that waiting is the hardest place to be. In the meantime of your life, between the promise and the manifestation, that's when many people walk away from their blessing, that's when many people give up. And it's right in the thick of that, that your faith muscle is most developed. When you get that no from God, people say all the time,

You know God's promises are yes and amen. Yes when a God's promise is a yes and amen That was a yes from God when God says no or God says wait We tend to panic and freak out and in the freak out is where we lose hope we lose focus We get distracted we start listening to other voices and so it's that spiritual discipline and that that you being distracted by What looks good and feels good everything that looks good to you isn't good for you. And so that hope deferred

can be the biggest spiritual barrier because in the meantime of your life, that is the hardest place to be.

Richard (14:20.829)

Marcus, would you mind repeating and clarifying the question a little bit? I didn't quite get here.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (14:26.812)

and we'll start in the evening that night. So, until then, we'll just have a little bit of break.

Marcus Hart (14:28.79)

Absolutely. I know we touched on the physical a bit, but in this particular question, we want to know what are the primary spiritual barriers that keeps us from accepting God's peace as a spiritual person.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (14:36.732)

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Rev. Dr. AShellarien (14:43.964)

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Richard (14:45.889)

Okay. Well, I think the first question you ask a lot of is anxiety. When we are not, we don't have the trust and faith, faith in God. You know, we said we might say we do, but we don't know how big our faith is until we are tested with whatever it might be. Like I said, I lost a lot of money, know, money is a, we all need money in this world. We know we're not supposed to completely trust in it, but I'm just saying it was a

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (15:00.858)

Thank

Richard (15:14.531)

a huge test for my faith. How was I going to act? I've also been divorced and unfortunate for that and how the circumstances of that I don't need to get into. But the point is that was a huge, another huge test of my faith. And those are things that can get in the way when we are too caught up in the things of this world. And, you know, depending on the things of this world, I've also lost a, I lost a spouse through breast cancer.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (15:31.673)

Thank you.

Richard (15:43.037)

And I had five children at the time. And so, you know, those are real life situations that test our faith and get in the way of us really believing and having peace in our life. When, you know, I was angry, I was asking why. Well, God doesn't answer the question why. And eventually I had to come to the place where I just had to believe and accept, regardless of what I was going through and what I've been through in my life.

I still had to come to a place of whether or not do I believe the word of God, do I believe what I say I believe, is God real in my life or not? It's easy when everything's going fine to say, you know, God, it's blessed God's disk, he's a blessing and all these things that that is easy to say. But when you're going through some really stressful times and things fall through the roof,

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (16:22.669)

Yeah.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (16:27.116)

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Richard (16:39.771)

That is when we're gonna find out where our faith is at. It's not easy to do, but that is the best. Those are things that can get in the way. And so we have to be understanding, but I can just say that ultimately that is the answer. Jesus is the answer. The peace of God, the Holy Spirit, all the things that we know in the word of God, that is the answer. And that takes real faith when things are not looking real bright.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (16:40.92)

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Jen Brooks (17:10.0)

This is such an important question, Marcus, because unless we identify the barriers, we can't break through them, right? So I've actually thought of five of them. Number one, sin. Willfully walking in disobedience. If we are walking in a way that is contrary to what God's calling us to do, we're not going to have peace. We're going to have anxiety with that because we have unrepentant, unresolved sin in our life. Number two, the reality that

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (17:26.519)

Thank you.

Jen Brooks (17:37.838)

We are in a spiritual battle. Spiritual warfare is real. We have an enemy. He comes against us. And you better believe he does not want us to have God's peace. So we've got to be able to put on our armor, wield the sword of the spirit, and engage in battle exactly as God's word tells us. Number three, prayerlessness. We are told in Philippians 4, 6 through 7, do not be anxious for anything, but in everything, in prayer and petition.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (17:50.134)

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Jen Brooks (18:07.322)

with Thanksgiving, present your request to God. And the peace of God that transcends all understanding will guard your heart and your mind in Christ Jesus. So he's telling us, don't be anxious, but in everything, pray. So if we're not praying, we're going to have some anxiety with that. And finally, a lack of trust or unbelief, four and five. A lack of trust where we're just choosing not to trust in him.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (18:20.021)

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Jen Brooks (18:34.819)

And number five, unbelief. We're not going to believe him.

Marcus Hart (18:40.378)

You guys are definitely on fire for God. Definitely being forged in the fire right now with these wonderful responses and just the insight and wisdom. And for our final question today, you know, this gives you guys another opportunity to give us something that we can take home and apply. One tangible minute-long exercise or practice based on scripture that listeners can implement right away.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (18:47.669)

Thank you.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (19:09.847)

I'm glad you asked this last question. What can we do? I'm all about practical application. I just wrote a new book called, Living Unbothered on Purpose, Pause, Prey, Blame.

And it's all about spiritually rewiring our neural pathways so that we can then do what 2 Corinthians 10 and 5 says. And it says, down the arguments in every high thing that exalt itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. And how do we do that? We have to think about what we think about. Any situation you're in as an army chaplain, one of the things I do is I teach Master Resilience. And one of the principles we have is what you say to yourself.

These your emotions release your behavior and every area of your life your emotions are never driving It's always what am I saying to myself in this moment? That's causing this emotional reaction is causing my behavior So in this pause pray plan, you can do it right in the moment So you think about what you're thinking about no matter what's going on in your life Whatever emotion is arise. Are you stopping that moment? You pause you say wait a minute What am I saying to myself right now? And then whatever you're saying to yourself, you're gonna be able to identify

the emotion that's followed. And because we created and wonderfully made, we have the ability to do like Luke says, position, heal that cell so we can rewire our brain. So in that moment, when you pause, now you have to pray and say, God, help me in this moment. I can't do it by myself. And then you have to have a plane. So why you need a plan is because the next time that thought comes, what can you say to yourself to redirect this? So for me,

No matter what thought I might say great into spirit of God on the inside of me and the spirit of evil is in the world Right. So in that moment, I might be frustrated. I might want to cut somebody out and I said wait a minute What am I thinking? So whatever that thought is I'm pausing I'm saying great is the spirit of God on the inside of me and spirit of evil is in the world then I'm gonna pray and say God help me To manage my emotions help me to honor you and not dishonor you in this moment And then the next thing I'm gonna do is make a plan, but the next time this happens

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (21:14.788)

I'm gonna pause first. I'm not gonna overreact all of this things can happen in a matter of seconds, right? Because especially if you have the spirit of Peter and you like to trust people out You've got to get a grip on that because you cannot dishonor God and who you are because you can't come back You can't you don't have an opportunity to make a second impression first impression. You're laughing in French We're gonna honor God with all of who we are We always have to think about what we're thinking about it. I don't mean the devil ain't gonna come It'll mean not gonna be distracted when Jesus baptized

He was immediately taken and being tempted by the devil. But James tells us that our faith is tested and our flesh is tempted. So when you pause, you're saying, wait a minute, is this my flesh or is this my faith? Is this a test or is this a temptation? So we have that ability to rewire our little pathways to depend on God and not on ourselves.

Richard (22:07.741)

Amen to that. I love that response because when it came to my mind with this question, what can we do? And I think one of the most important things you can do and should do is be transformed by the renewing of your mind. How do you renew your mind? The Bible doesn't necessarily talk about how, it just tells us what to do. But as the Reverend just said, it is taking control of our thought life.

and think on these things as the apostle Paul tells us. We can choose our thoughts and we can choose to change our thoughts. What I teach the parents that I'm working with, I teach them to catch the thought, change the thought and then verbally replace it with a verbal affirmation, I am. Two of the most powerful words in the English language that we learn from the word as Jesus said, I am.

Well, when we say I am, whatever you follow that with, that's your, you're proclaiming something over your life. I am, I am what, you know, and so it's our thinking, our, our, our thought life that has to be brought under control. As the Bible tells us that we have that ability. We're created in the, we can think about our thinking. As she said, we're not animals. We don't have to just react. We can respond and response is better than reaction.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (23:12.463)

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Rev. Dr. AShellarien (23:31.247)

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Richard (23:34.405)

And response usually takes us to think about our thinking, especially to think about our thinking about our stuff. But for me, if there's one thing that your audience can do is practice renewing your mind, putting on the mind of Christ. And we can't say it. We can't just read it. We have to learn how to do it. The simple method I teach, catch, change and replace. That's just one simple method that I'm encouraging people.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (23:38.753)

Thank you.

Richard (24:03.097)

It's you gotta take control of your thought life.

Jen Brooks (24:08.941)

So my takeaway for you comes from 1 Peter chapter 5 verses 6 through 7, and it tells us, humble yourselves therefore under God's mighty hand, that he may lift you up in due time, cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you. So there are two verbs there in those two verses, humble yourself and cast all your anxieties on him. So sometimes I think we like to quote,

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (24:17.358)

Thank you.

Jen Brooks (24:38.646)

Verse seven, cast all your anxieties on him because he cares for you. And that's true, but we can't forget about the verse that comes before that that tells us humble yourselves under his hand. So we want to posture ourselves in a position of humility before him as we cast our anxieties on him because he cares for you. So it's coming to him in that posture of, know I can't do this on my own. I know I can't trust in my own self, but I need to give it to you.

I think of a fisherman as they cast their reel, cast it to him and then leave it with him. Why? Because he trusts you. He cares for you. He is sovereign over you and he will provide that peace that we long for, that only he can provide.

Marcus Hart (25:27.346)

Well, I am so disappointed that this conversation cannot continue further. I can just sit here and listen and take in all of this wonderful information and wisdom for the rest of the day, if I could. So we have reached the end of this profound discussion. Today, we learned that peace is not passive. It's definitely active. It's faith-filled discipline.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (25:41.003)

I'm going be the one to say I'm to to that I'm to that I'm going say that I'm say that I'm be say that going to one I'm going one say that I'm going to to to to one that going to

Marcus Hart (25:53.939)

and is rooted in surrender, executed through Thanksgiving and maintained by conscious action. I would like to give our brilliant panel the opportunity to let us know if we can connect with them and how, and if they have anything at all, you know, whether it be a book, we heard about Revin's book earlier, if they have a book, event, or a course that they would like to you know, present to the public.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (26:12.586)

Thank you so much for having us I mean this has been phenomenal I love it when God allows different people from different places and we all wind up on one accord You know, there's nothing but God so I am Reverend. Dr. Shellery Addison on LinkedIn. I am at dr. Shellery on Instagram at rev Sheller on X I am a Shellery Addison on Facebook

My website is death of K. Joe's flow calm and spell it for you. D E S A K A J O S F L O dot com. I've got a lot of stuff going on. I've got a new book coming out next week. It's called healing from emotional trauma. It's called no more pieces healing from emotional trauma. So that'll be coming out next week. The book before that is living unbothered on purpose. Pause, pray, plan. I've got a women's edition and a men's edition. So if you go to my website,

D e s a k a j o s F l o dot com you may receive all the things that I do coming to a city near you

Richard (27:23.037)

First of all, Marcus, I wanna thank you for getting me up at 5.45 in the morning here in California.

Marcus Hart (27:28.274)

Don't mention it.

Richard (27:32.189)

Well, that's my prayer time anyway. So I'm Richard Ramos. I'm the founder and author of Parents on a Mission. You can find my books and my courses for parents at my website, Richard R. Middle initial R, RichardRRamos.com. Parents on a Mission, how parents can win the competition for the heart, mind,

and loyalty of their children. I recently released a new book, The Art of Step Parenting, How to Blend Families Without Tearing Them Apart. And I also have a podcast, theparentwhisperer.com. So if people are interested in learning more about the different things that my focus is, parents and youth relationships, they can find it there on my website, richardrromes.com or theparentwhisperer.com.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (28:19.112)

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Richard (28:30.119)

podcast.com. Thanks for having me, Marcus. A pleasure to meet you, Jen and Reverend Eshel Arin. Thank you.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (28:38.356)

I shall array.

Jen Brooks (28:42.805)

Well, my name is Jen Brooks and I have authored several in-depth Bible studies. Most recently is Anchor Your Identity in Christ and that is a verse by verse study through the book of Ephesians. I have a YouTube channel Anchored and Assured and I am a speaker at any conference or women's retreat at ChristianWomenSpeakers.com. I'm listed there as a speaker, but you can find lots of free resources on my website AnchoredAndAssured.com.

Marcus Hart (28:43.282)

Thank you.

Jen Brooks (29:12.402)

I have a downloadable free spiritual warfare toolkit, which will help you stand in victory in spiritual battle. I've got the first lesson of the first chapter, in fact, of Anchor Your Identity in Christ that you can download for free to see if it's a good fit for you. But lots of good resources free there, Bible study verses to download on anchored and assured.com. I'm on any of your social media platforms. I'd be honored to serve you there wherever you're surfing the internet at Anchored and Assured Genre.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (29:24.038)

So, thanks for joining us.

Marcus Hart (29:41.04)

Outstanding. I just want to finish by saying I am a fan of these men and women of God. These are the type of people that should be pushed in the forefront of our mainstream media. And I just really appreciate, you know, their wisdom has been a blessing today. And to our listeners out there, you you heard their, you know, offers and, you know, the things that they have available and how you can connect with them. want to, you know, ask that you guys.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (29:50.245)

Thank

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the and that's the idea of the I'm going to it here. That's the idea of the team.

Marcus Hart (30:09.132)

act and, you know, absorb some of the truth. And now that you have the truth, you must now execute it. We will have all of their information in the episode description of this particular episode discussion. And further, you will be able to like get the companions that are associated with this discussion, such as the blog article, full feature articles, which will be published throughout many different platforms, as well as ebook companions.

Rev. Dr. AShellarien (30:30.392)

and and it's a way to help you see your future.

Marcus Hart (30:39.239)

So watch out for that. There will be an e-book companion and this is a surprise to them and a gift to them, to the panelists that are here, to give them something extra under their belt with another e-book as authors. So with that being said, thank you guys for joining us. In the meantime, many blessings, peace and lots of love and guard your heart.